Paul
Goble
Staunton, July 20 – On the 25th
anniversary of Alyaksandr Lukashenka’s first election as president, Belarusian
Nobelist Svetlana Aleksiyevich tells Russian interviewer Zoya Svetova that at
that time no one, even in his or her worst nightmare, could imagine that Lukashenka
would be in power for so long or act as he has.
Lukashenka, she says, remains
completely Soviet in his thinking with only this difference: “he loves property
and money.” Like many Belarusians and
Russians, he has never accepted capitalism or democracy or understood that
simply closing up prison camps is not enough to make people free (mbk-news.appspot.com/sences/svetlana-aleksievich/).
It takes far more than that as Germany’s
experience has shown. The German government has worked hard to extirpate the
attitudes that gave rise to Hitlerism but even there many of those attitudes
continue to exist. No similar effort has been made in Belarus or in Russia
either, the celebrated Belarusian writer continues.
Asked about the possibility that
Belarus will be absorbed by Putin’s Russia, Aleksiyevich says that in her view,
“Belarus is a separate country. The last decade or so has made that obvious
despite Lukashenka’s policies and his pro-Russian position. Now, he has been
trying to use this national factor and to allow a soft nationalization,”
although the Russian language is everywhere.
“But people and young people in
particular, are Belarusian. The countryside always has been Belarusian.”
Lukashenka will hardly want to give
up being president to become an oblast leader, she says, but adds that “we don’t
know how dependent he is on the Kremlin.” And thus, he may have no choice but
to go along. Nonetheless and regardless of what he does, “the people will not
become Russian.”
Asked what the people might do in
that event, Aleksiyevich says “the most horrible outcome would be if young
people went into the woods – and this is a possible variant,” one that would
mark the beginning of “a civil war. But young people often talk about this. And
I personally very much fear blood will flow.”
No leaders are eternal despite what
they believe, the writer continues. “Chingiz Khan left the scene and Putin and
Lukashenka will as well.” What the
Belarusian and Russian people need to do is to change themselves and their countries
so that such people will not arise again, just as one can’t imagine them now in
France or Sweden.
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